Google has not pushed any resources towards Jaiku and with closed invitations, you've got the makings of an echo chamber all-around. @Jyri should stir the public pot on this.
Do all Jaiku users have 10 invites? Even new invites? If so it should be possible to open up. But I agree with Bernard on this one. Google could end up being a Jaiku killer
Just thinking that Leah and the crew have a big opportunity to take advantage of the Jaiku mis-step. They are publicly launching at the end of this month. Despite all our cattiness about its me-tooness (and I was one of the most vocal), it is a nicely designed app with some useful uniques feature. If it had channels, it would really rock. And I'm not just saying that cos she replied to my mail!
I just posted a quick update on the Jaikido blog. The database is not as responsive as it could be right now because of the sheer amount of feed data that's being fetched. Andy's working on the problem, we'll be posting an update as Jaiku Team once that's been solved.
The minute Jaiku was bought I stated that Google bought them for the people, not the company. Google isn't really interested in the current Jaiku client in my opinion. I see them simply bringing presence to contacts in your address book so instead of just getting a name and number etc., you get where they are and what they're doing...
1/ Drop the feed inputs - my incoming messages are 80% new blog posts notifications, bookmarks and flickr uploads. Normally I've already picked these up in my feedreader. I'm clearing all mine.
2/ The IM client is my primary contact with Jaiku. It needs to not require me to click links to read comments, nor repeat what I say back to me. It needs to feel like a smooth group IM session.
@rgb: ad 2. The IM service repeats what you send for two reasons:
To know that your message was indeed successfully received and processed. Sometimes, server-to-server connections between Jaiku and your Jabber server go down and you wouldn't know your message didn't get through.
To verify that comments end up at the thread you wanted to respond to (using the @nick syntax).
As for reading comments to a post you haven't subscribed to (this happens when you comment yourself), how would you want that to work?
I agree with @ralphm has said - repeating my own messages back to me is kind of a confirmation that my message went through. When I try to do the same in twitter, it simply denies me saying I can't follow myself. Very bad.
This is a feature request I've posted elsewhere: Don't auto subscribe me to anything but their Jaikus. Right now every time someone adds a new feed, I have to go and unsubscribe manually.
For Jaiku to totally drop external feeds would be out of the question. There are a lot of people primarily using Jaiku as a feed aggregator or even as a lifestream aggregator. You can't just remove such an important function.
Don't Auto subscribe me to anything but their Jaikus.
I would agree with this too, I also unsubscribe manually or there is too much noise for my liking. How about adding a tickbox to allow all or none for the feeds?
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anything in particular that made you move?
1 year, 10 months ago by darran
change with jaiku?
1 year, 10 months ago by dw
Google has not pushed any resources towards Jaiku and with closed invitations, you've got the makings of an echo chamber all-around. @Jyri should stir the public pot on this.
1 year, 10 months ago by topgold
Do all Jaiku users have 10 invites? Even new invites? If so it should be possible to open up. But I agree with Bernard on this one. Google could end up being a Jaiku killer
1 year, 10 months ago by markmedia
Just thinking that Leah and the crew have a big opportunity to take advantage of the Jaiku mis-step. They are publicly launching at the end of this month. Despite all our cattiness about its me-tooness (and I was one of the most vocal), it is a nicely designed app with some useful uniques feature. If it had channels, it would really rock. And I'm not just saying that cos she replied to my mail!
1 year, 10 months ago by conoro
Sadly I'm thinking to move too. Jaiku is becoming slow to adopt changes and new user requirements.
1 year, 10 months ago by israel
I wish @jyri could talk about the internal politics because from my perspective this feels like an employee acquisition not a company acquisition.
1 year, 10 months ago by topgold
I just posted a quick update on the Jaikido blog. The database is not as responsive as it could be right now because of the sheer amount of feed data that's being fetched. Andy's working on the problem, we'll be posting an update as Jaiku Team once that's been solved.
1 year, 10 months ago by jyri
thanks for letting us know! It's seriously bad currently.
1 year, 10 months ago by atmasphere
@jyri: thanks for the update, reading the post is certainly helpful for all the worried Jaikuistas.
You have created a popular monster :)
1 year, 10 months ago by runningwithbulls
I'd happily dump all my RSS feeds if it helps with performance. In fact, I will.
1 year, 10 months ago by conoro
The minute Jaiku was bought I stated that Google bought them for the people, not the company. Google isn't really interested in the current Jaiku client in my opinion. I see them simply bringing presence to contacts in your address book so instead of just getting a name and number etc., you get where they are and what they're doing...
1 year, 10 months ago by PaulW
1/ Drop the feed inputs - my incoming messages are 80% new blog posts notifications, bookmarks and flickr uploads. Normally I've already picked these up in my feedreader. I'm clearing all mine.
2/ The IM client is my primary contact with Jaiku. It needs to not require me to click links to read comments, nor repeat what I say back to me. It needs to feel like a smooth group IM session.
1 year, 10 months ago by rgb
@rgb we're working on improvements to feed handling, stay tuned
1 year, 10 months ago by jyri
@rgb: ad 2. The IM service repeats what you send for two reasons:
As for reading comments to a post you haven't subscribed to (this happens when you comment yourself), how would you want that to work?
1 year, 10 months ago by ralphm
I agree with @ralphm has said - repeating my own messages back to me is kind of a confirmation that my message went through. When I try to do the same in twitter, it simply denies me saying I can't follow myself. Very bad.
1 year, 10 months ago by tabrez
@rgb said:
> 1/ Drop the feed inputs
This is a feature request I've posted elsewhere: Don't auto subscribe me to anything but their Jaikus. Right now every time someone adds a new feed, I have to go and unsubscribe manually.
For Jaiku to totally drop external feeds would be out of the question. There are a lot of people primarily using Jaiku as a feed aggregator or even as a lifestream aggregator. You can't just remove such an important function.
1 year, 10 months ago by RickMeasham
@RickMeasham said:
I would agree with this too, I also unsubscribe manually or there is too much noise for my liking. How about adding a tickbox to allow all or none for the feeds?
1 year, 10 months ago by KevanV